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ERIC WITHERS
Feb 8, 2018

8854

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SIR,

 

 

AFTER READING YOUR WEB PAGE ON IRS FORM 8854 A PARTICULAR QUESTION HAS COME INTO RECENT SCRUTINY.

THE 2017 IRS FORM 8854 PUBLISHED IN NOVEMBER 2017 LINE 7 b. IS:

"DATE YOU BECAME A CITIZEN OF EACH COUNTRY LISTED IN LINE 7 a"

FOR A COUNTRY WITH DUAL NATIONALITY YOU APPLY TAKE OATH AND RECEIVE A NATIONALITY CERTIFICATE (CANADA FOR EXAMPLE) AS YOU EXPATRIATE WHAT DATE YOU BECAME CANADIAN NATIONAL IS VERY EASY.

 

 

 

FOR A COUNTRY WITH NO DUAL NATIONALITY SAY INDIA:

 

1. TAKE OATH

2. MAKE CITIZENSHIP APPLICATION

3. UPON APPROVAL BY GOVERNMENT YOU ARE ISSUED A "ACKNOWLEDGEMENT" FORMALLY PROMISING YOU CITIZENSHIP AFTER, YES "AFTER" YOU APPROACH YOUR EMBASSY AND GET THE "CLN" CERTIFICATE OF LOSS OF NATIONALITY

4. YOU THEN GET THE CLN

5. YOU THEN GIVE THE CLN TO THE GOVERNMENT WHO ARE HOLDING YOUR NATIONALITY APPLICATION AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT IN SUSPENSE UNTIL YOU SUCCESSFULLY PROVIDE THE CLN

6. YOU ARE THEN ISSUED A NATIONALITY CERTIFICATE

 

ALL THIS BECAUSE THE ONE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT GIVE NATIONALITY TO ANY PERSON WHO HAS NOT RENUNCIATED FIRST

THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT IS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO SERVE AS A "ALTERNATIVE PASSPORT"

THIS VERIFIED FIRST WITH THE LEGAL STAFF OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT LEGAL ADVISORY STAFF OCS/L.

 

NOW THE 8854 Q. 7b DATE ?

 

IS THIS DATE 1. OR 3. OR 6. THE CORRECT "DATE"

AS THE 8854 MAY NEED TO BE FILED ONE YEAR EARLIER IF 1. ABOVE VERSUS 6. CAN BE AS MUCH AS 2 YEARS.

 

 

 

YOURS, TRUELY E.W.

 

this one was particularly perplexing

Daniel Gray CPA
Feb 9, 2018

8854 7b date is the date on which you became a citizen. That's as far as tax law is concerned. If you need legal immigration advice to ascertain that date, investigate with a legal adviser or immigration expert.

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